Oh… prices from US as general reference
I’m not trying to argue here, so let me conclude with this… Maybe people from US can buy those additional components for 10-15$ (or even less, really don’t know) but believe there are some places on this earth where those components cost 25-30$, even when you but in online from China.
I added only accessories that you need to power up device. How can you call that unfair? I didn’t add, for example remote, which cheap android boxes have. But with RPi you probably want need that because of CEC. Also heat sink, which as I can read is some reviews is now become essential for RPi 4.
You can’t do anything with naked RPi board and that was my whole point… RPi is not 35$ device!
Also don’t forget that you need a heatsink on the Pi in order for it not to overheat while watching content that has no hardware decoding support. Or some general use that puts a continuous load on the CPU.
That I agree with. Anyone buying for kodi is probably getting at least the $45 version anyway (or they should be!).
I looked for us prices because you quoted $ by the way - I’m in the uk.
And ‘there are some places on this earth where those components cost 25-30$,’ - Sure, of course. But look back and compare that with what you wrote originally.
You added HDMI cables. Kinda sounded like you wanted to artificially show a higher price.
It’s like adding a 4K TV to the Pi4 because it supports 4K and comparing it to the RP3 with a 1080p TV you know.
Some things are just the same for all. You need a SD card for an AML box too and also a HDMI cable so don’t add something to the price when you need it on either box. And NO internal storage doesn’t count.
HDMI cable comes with all Chinese Android TV Boxes. Yes, it is same for all but with AML boxes you get it in the price and with RPi you buy it separately.
If you don’t count internal storage then I stand corrected.
But again, it’s not 35$ - my point. Maybe not exactly 30$, as I stated in my first post, but at least 15$ more. Even if you are in US
Most people probably don’t have a micro hdmi cable in their drawer.
You do, but it can be a tiny slow shitty cheap one if you’re using internal storage. Or a iusb stick on my boxes for that matter.
Power supply is a significant extra cost for the pi4 - it looks like I can’t repurpose one of my (many) existing ones - though I’ll give it a go.
I’d certainly factor in the price of emmc with an N2 - why on earth wouldn’t you?
My point was that the RPi4 has a very fast CPU. You can compare the speed probably to the N2.
And the price is with $35 very low. I still can’t see why anyone would rather buy a $30 S905X box over a Pi4. Even if you add all those hdmi cables, cases etc and end up with $60 imo it’s still a better deal for what you get hardware and software wise. Just my opinion yet still I’m not a Raspberry fan.
I am a big pi fan (I have 4 of various ages). If I want a cheap device to run kodi that works reliably tomorrow though I’d spend £20 on ebay on a s905xbox. Actually my last one was £11 (second hand) and it just works. The only extra were a bluetooth dongle (£2) and the smallest crappiest micro sd I could find in my drawer.
I’ll buy a pi4 because I want to play with it. But I’m not kidding myself that it will give me anything extra for now - because the ‘old’ S905 boxes are already as reliable as my pi3 and faster / more powerful.
A pi4 in the uk will cost me around £60 - that’s the 2GB version, assuming I need a psu, case and sd card.
Pi4 doesn’t support 4K hardware acceleration or HDR. It doesn’t do H.264 at 4K either as far as I know.
So if you have a 1080P TV, that’s fine, but if you’re looking for a device that can handle 4K HDR right now rather than some-day-in-the-future-when-mainline-works-right, no Pi will do it for you.
So there are still reasons to pick a cheap AML box over the Pi.
Again RPi is for hobbyists. When you want to do an electronic project, RPi is perfect. You have code samples, libraries, community support etc.
I don’t think you have such freedom with AML devices.
It’s just would be nice to have proper video decoding abilities.
Why would I want two boxes for htpc and hobby projects if I have a device that can do both, that’s our point.
I’ve happily used pi’s for media for years - there isn’t anything out there that’s had comparable levels of support, so things just work. I currently use one in my car as a media server over wifi and to play music and audiobooks via the stereo. I have another linked to an amp in my dining room for radio / music. Until recently I had one attached to my bedroom tv - worked perfectly for my needs (1080p), it’s now in my garage playing music and radio from my pvr backend.
Saying ‘It’s just for hobbyists’ doesn’t make it true.
In your previous post, you clearly said It doesn’t even throttle elegantly - it stalls and crashes. I sure would like to see the link(s) of these two issues (stalls and crashes). This way, I can be more informed when talking about an RPi4 with anyone.
Really? Show me how to take pictures from camera interface on odroid in Python…
There’s picamera package just for that in RPi.
I checked odroid resources for developers and they’re nowhere close to RPi counterparts.
RPi is fantastic if you want to develop something with it.
Are you replying to the right person? I’m the one who doesn’t own an odroid but has happily used pi’s for media for years. It’s not just for hobbyists.
RPi is also fantastic if you want to play media for the same reason it’s good for hobbyists - support. My 7-year-old boards will still run the latest kodi.
