WeTek Air support plans?


#1

Hello, I plan on “combining” my linux/enigma2 dvb-s2 receiver and my S905X kodi box into one device.
I mean sell those 2 and buy 1 new device for the all jobs.

Requirements are:
Hevc 4k@60fps Playback
2 dvb-s2 tuners (possibility to watch one channel and record another one at the same time)
and most important: CoreElec support.

I discovered WeTek Play 2 is probably the best choice for this (just looking at hardware specs) and now I discovered that a new device will come called WeTek Air!

So I just want to ask quick if anyone has experience with the company behind WeTek in general. Is there support? How is it? Quality of hardware? Quality control?

And most important: Are there already any plans for CoreElec support for WeTek Air?

I’m trying to figure out whether or not I should wait for WeTek Air release and buy it or try to get WeTek Play 2.
I’m not in a hurry, just asking, maybe there are plans.


#2

WeTek Air is based on the S905D which is already supported however saying that, the tuner inside the device is unknown and will unlikely be supported unless devices are donated as I don’t think any of us will be spending $180 on one, it also only single tuner.

Currently we support Mecool devices and the KVIM2 with its VTV board for DVB-S2, or you can buy any generic Amlogic S9xx device and use an external tuner of your choice but again with the option some tuners may or may not work.

WeTek Play 2 is very old but we do support this device.

Mecool KIII Pro would be the best choice imo.


#3

Thx for your feedback. I always get confused with these dvb tuners: Why are there 2 connectors, for example on wetek play 2? And also it says twin tuner or dual tuner…
I thought I can screw on 2 coaxial cables from my 2 dvb-s2 sockets and get the ability to watch one channel and record another one at the same time. Like I have it now on my dvb-s2 receiver…

Is this only one rf in and the other is rf out? Doesn’t make sense to me, why would you need rf out?

So is there no way to have 2 dvb-s2 tuners working on a kodi box with coreelec?


#4

On some devices it is dual/twin tuners in the case of DVB-S2 + DVB-T2 rather than 2*DVB-S2.

The WeTek does have a 2*DVB-S2 module available.

rf-out is for looping a feed back to another device.


#5

Ok, I was confused a bit. So WeTek Play2 is avaiable with 2x dvb-s2 tuners right?
Also WeTek Air will be or am I wrong?
You wrote spending 180, also only single tuner?
Reading the specs here I think one can choose dvb-s2 twin tuner…

The unknown twin tuner is the showstopper here :frowning: Of course I understand. Maybe if I buy WeTek Air I could send it to one of you for a couple weeks/months :smiley: But I guess you’d need it always to be able to support it. My knowledge is limited, I guess I could only run test builds and send back logs.


#6

Apologies because I just looked at the FCC pictures of the WeTek Air and only saw a single tuner configuration but it’s modular so I guess they could release a 2*DVB-S2 module for it.

@afl1 is our resident dvb expert and wrote an open-source driver for the WeTek Play 2 tuner but that was after he had been sent a device, there is no guarantee by buying that new device when it is out that the same will happen again and that we will be able support it.

There is also the issue with some new “Certified Android” tv boxes coming with locked bootloaders but again that is a whole other issue, I wouldn’t want to be the guinea pig that buys and tests and new/unknown device.


#7

Ok :frowning: I also did more research. For WeTek Play 2 there is only dvb-s2 single tuner available.
I don’t think that will change with the Air…
Since I have 2 cables running to my current dvb-s2 receiver I also plan on using them :smiley:

Unfortunatly I couldn’t find a amlogic box with 2 dvb-s2 tuners :frowning: So guess I’ll have to put my plan aside.


#8

This is one option

Or you can use external tuners.


#9

I can recommend Digibit R1 ip satbox with 4 tuners, works great with Tvheand and Kodi


#10

:exploding_head::exploding_head:
This sbc looks awesome! Had a look at the specs and quick look into videos, wtf… So many features and stuff you can do! I think it’s overpowered for me usecase…but I want to have it now :smiley:
So this setup of yours works out of the box with CoreElec?
Which model is this? Do you think the lite model could handle these 2 dbv-s2 tuner boards well in terms of processing power and all?


#11

which SoC does this have? Can it decode hevc content?


#12

You already got me hooked :smiley:
I consider buying this. On gearbest the tuner board is on sale for € 15,60!
What do you think, good price right?
But nowhere is the lite version, only base, pro and max. Maybe I’ll just go with the base one.


#13

This was a KVIM2 with 2 tuner boards, not the cheapest option.


#14

I can second that suggestion.
There is also a dual tuner model available from the same company.

I use the 4 tuner model, and also a 4 tuner HDHomerun for terrestrial, with a Tanix Tx3 mini managing the tuners and made available over the LAN to client devices at TVs, as well as PCs, Laptops, phones and tablets etc.

I use another Tanix for one client and a NUC for another and a R-Pi for a third, as well as an Android box with Kodi installed.
In addition it is able to manage providing a channel over internet when required.

The tuner devices are the only costly part of the whole set up … the Tanix is less than $40 each.


#15

That’s actually a really good suggestion by @JohnBoyz that you could do, if you want to use more than 1 tuner you are going to have to put your hand in your pocket otherwise the cheap option would be a Mecool box.


#16

Thx for the recommendation but I already have a similar setup. I have a AX HD51 4-k receiver with 2 tuners and a S905X box.
I just got the dvb-s2 receiver because I got it very cheap.
But yeah, I’d like one smaller device with both functionality of the 2 above.
I think I can sell the receiver for like 140 € and the box for at least 30 €.
So that would be my budget.

Khadas Vim 2 /w the 2 tuner boards looks good to me, just noticed every board needs external power supply? So in total 3 electric sockets… Is there some special psu with 3 lines to boards an vim2 itself, so I just need one socket?


#17

You can split power supply for both board or solder wires to connect one to another. For testing use 2 power supply was fastest solution.


#18

IIRC the Wetek Air has a locked bootloader so you can’t install anything but their original Android. No idea why they went this way cause Wetek already sponsors LibreELEC and codesnake was always the one supporting WeTek Devices.


#19

Did I get it right that on the pics here the board is turned upside down?..I mean if you say the top is where the soc is.

So gpio pins are upside down. That’s how the second tuner board is connected.
But what about the 5V Output pogo pins?.. I don’t get why they are needed anyways. It’s not for power supply right? what are they needed for?

Does it get hot? Do you use heatsink+fan?
or @adamg … idk whose setup it is.


#20

I recommend the SAT > IP as well. The VIM2 dtV board mounted as a piggy back for two tuners is going to be a fiddle to set up and without a decent case its going to be vulnerable to damage - it also needs a good cooling option to run reliably which makes the piggy backed tuner approach even more of a fath. Its not the best tuner to boot. With the SAT > IP you get more flexibility as you can use it when you upgrade your base box.
I have the VIM2 with dTV card and it has worked just fine for me, but I also went for the Telestar DIGIBIT Twin to expand my sat compliment. The Telestar works with TVheadend without any special setup and both tuners are accessible within Tvheadend. A decent S905D box coupled to the Telestar is going to cost about the same as WeTek Air.

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