Thx for your feedback. I always get confused with these dvb tuners: Why are there 2 connectors, for example on wetek play 2? And also it says twin tuner or dual tuner…
I thought I can screw on 2 coaxial cables from my 2 dvb-s2 sockets and get the ability to watch one channel and record another one at the same time. Like I have it now on my dvb-s2 receiver…
Is this only one rf in and the other is rf out? Doesn’t make sense to me, why would you need rf out?
So is there no way to have 2 dvb-s2 tuners working on a kodi box with coreelec?
On some devices it is dual/twin tuners in the case of DVB-S2 + DVB-T2 rather than 2*DVB-S2.
The WeTek does have a 2*DVB-S2 module available.
rf-out is for looping a feed back to another device.
Ok, I was confused a bit. So WeTek Play2 is avaiable with 2x dvb-s2 tuners right?
Also WeTek Air will be or am I wrong?
You wrote spending 180, also only single tuner?
Reading the specs here I think one can choose dvb-s2 twin tuner…
The unknown twin tuner is the showstopper here Of course I understand. Maybe if I buy WeTek Air I could send it to one of you for a couple weeks/months But I guess you’d need it always to be able to support it. My knowledge is limited, I guess I could only run test builds and send back logs.
Apologies because I just looked at the FCC pictures of the WeTek Air and only saw a single tuner configuration but it’s modular so I guess they could release a 2*DVB-S2 module for it.
@afl1 is our resident dvb expert and wrote an open-source driver for the WeTek Play 2 tuner but that was after he had been sent a device, there is no guarantee by buying that new device when it is out that the same will happen again and that we will be able support it.
There is also the issue with some new “Certified Android” tv boxes coming with locked bootloaders but again that is a whole other issue, I wouldn’t want to be the guinea pig that buys and tests and new/unknown device.
Ok I also did more research. For WeTek Play 2 there is only dvb-s2 single tuner available.
I don’t think that will change with the Air…
Since I have 2 cables running to my current dvb-s2 receiver I also plan on using them
Unfortunatly I couldn’t find a amlogic box with 2 dvb-s2 tuners So guess I’ll have to put my plan aside.
This is one option
Or you can use external tuners.
I can recommend Digibit R1 ip satbox with 4 tuners, works great with Tvheand and Kodi
which SoC does this have? Can it decode hevc content?
You already got me hooked
I consider buying this. On gearbest the tuner board is on sale for € 15,60!
What do you think, good price right?
But nowhere is the lite version, only base, pro and max. Maybe I’ll just go with the base one.
This was a KVIM2 with 2 tuner boards, not the cheapest option.
I can second that suggestion.
There is also a dual tuner model available from the same company.
I use the 4 tuner model, and also a 4 tuner HDHomerun for terrestrial, with a Tanix Tx3 mini managing the tuners and made available over the LAN to client devices at TVs, as well as PCs, Laptops, phones and tablets etc.
I use another Tanix for one client and a NUC for another and a R-Pi for a third, as well as an Android box with Kodi installed.
In addition it is able to manage providing a channel over internet when required.
The tuner devices are the only costly part of the whole set up … the Tanix is less than $40 each.
That’s actually a really good suggestion by @JohnBoyz that you could do, if you want to use more than 1 tuner you are going to have to put your hand in your pocket otherwise the cheap option would be a Mecool box.
Thx for the recommendation but I already have a similar setup. I have a AX HD51 4-k receiver with 2 tuners and a S905X box.
I just got the dvb-s2 receiver because I got it very cheap.
But yeah, I’d like one smaller device with both functionality of the 2 above.
I think I can sell the receiver for like 140 € and the box for at least 30 €.
So that would be my budget.
Khadas Vim 2 /w the 2 tuner boards looks good to me, just noticed every board needs external power supply? So in total 3 electric sockets… Is there some special psu with 3 lines to boards an vim2 itself, so I just need one socket?
You can split power supply for both board or solder wires to connect one to another. For testing use 2 power supply was fastest solution.
IIRC the Wetek Air has a locked bootloader so you can’t install anything but their original Android. No idea why they went this way cause Wetek already sponsors LibreELEC and codesnake was always the one supporting WeTek Devices.
Did I get it right that on the pics here the board is turned upside down?..I mean if you say the top is where the soc is.
So gpio pins are upside down. That’s how the second tuner board is connected.
But what about the 5V Output pogo pins?.. I don’t get why they are needed anyways. It’s not for power supply right? what are they needed for?
Does it get hot? Do you use heatsink+fan?
or @anon88919003 … idk whose setup it is.
I recommend the SAT > IP as well. The VIM2 dtV board mounted as a piggy back for two tuners is going to be a fiddle to set up and without a decent case its going to be vulnerable to damage - it also needs a good cooling option to run reliably which makes the piggy backed tuner approach even more of a fath. Its not the best tuner to boot. With the SAT > IP you get more flexibility as you can use it when you upgrade your base box.
I have the VIM2 with dTV card and it has worked just fine for me, but I also went for the Telestar DIGIBIT Twin to expand my sat compliment. The Telestar works with TVheadend without any special setup and both tuners are accessible within Tvheadend. A decent S905D box coupled to the Telestar is going to cost about the same as WeTek Air.
I could bet that it gets too hot
I’d certainly also buy the heatsink and fan.
The whole idea was to cut out the “big” dbv-s2 receiver box and just have one small kodi box.
I have this receiver: https://www.amazon.de/AX-4K-BOX-2160p-2xDVB-S2-Receiver/dp/B01G461NTU
Got it new for € 70,-
I don’t think it has SAT > IP. It can run Kodi but last I checked I had problems like hevc playback etc…
On the box itself I tried different Images based on OpenPli like OpenATV but I wasn’t very happy with them: I put some time in it to set everything up, backed up image, backed up configs only to find out later that after an update it wouldn’t boot anymore. New flash and restore configs also ended in unbootable box.
Before the update there was even a prompt saying: “Old version detected, manual clean flash recommended” lol
Started over with another OpenPli based Image, after setting everything up again, I got a python error and now cannot reboot anymore, just can restart the Gui.
Can’t say much good about these enigma2/OpenPli/Open… Images.
But yeah, I guess I’ll keep my current setup for now. I got the S905x box for € 17,-. With your great work and CoreElec on it I can safely say that this is the electronic device with the most value for the money I own! It’s crazy how important good, dedicated software is.
Ok ok, this is getting very off topic, sry guys. I just have one last question:
Currently I use this Enigma2 plugin to get my channels to my S905X box.
Problem is, if the receiver isn’t running on Kodi start, the plugin throws an error and can’t find the channels.
Restarting plugin doesn’t help. … I don’t wanna have the receiver runnnig all the time.
So the question: What is the recommended way for live tv if you have Kodi and such a receiver? Or better said what would you guys recommend?
Have such a tvheadend server run on the receiver and on Kodi have some tvheadend client addon?
I never used tvheadend, after a quick research I decided that using the enigma2 addon is the easier way, since the receiver already runs open webif where you already can stream tv channels.
@Shoog I just saw now, that you didn’t mention a receiver, it is such SAT > IP server/converter and also smaller than my receiver. That certainly is an option
I would try running tvheadend on the HD51 (if the tuners are not presently Sat>IP compatible - are you certain?), as this can create Sat>IP outputs from attached tuners.
Then the HD51 can be placed anywhere (out of the way) and the Sat>IP tuners used on a client machine.