Best device for Coreelec in 2025

Hi @Astrotrain There is a typo in this sentence in the original post:

CoreELEC can be installed on the emmc and HS400 enabled which greatly reduces boot time and speeds up the which greatly reduces boot time and speeds up the interface making it feel significantly faster than the S905X4.

Please correct it.

What are you worry about? Someone asked chat gpt for a nice review and you’re complaining?
You can’t leave review if you didn’t bought from a seller…

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Be careful with storage on CE-NG. On my Dune-HD all USB3 stocks cause the xhci kernel driver to disconnect the stick even when just playing back a BD iso. Mileage may vary in different setups, but 4.9 is just an old kernel. Problem is gone for me with CE-NE, but of course thats where you loose DV FEL.

Fixed, thanks.

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I need to replace my ageing A95x F2 device which could pass everything including Dolby Atmos, Vision etc, but recently I’ve noticed that it’s buffering quite a lot on 4K or HD audio.

I currently own the Mecool KM2 Plus which is certified but doesn’t passthrough anything with the official ATV for Local Files.

So I’m stuck with 2 options: Homatics 4k R Plus & Ugoos E4Q Plus. Which is better in terms of performance and Coreelec compatability? I strictly need it for Local Playback. also i learnt about Dolby FEL 7 profile which I have doubt that my Yamaha RX-A1080 would passthrough to the Sony KD-X9000 series TV.

The A95x F2 didn’t support Dolby Vision did it?

The Homatics 4k R Plus & Ugoos E4Q are both s905x4’s, performance is going to be about the same. The E4Q Extra, is Ugoos’s only s905x4 box with DV support.

E4Q Extra has an SDcard slot and 128GB emmc (Android 11)
4k R Plus is Google Certified comes with AndroidTV12, 4K & atmos from major streaming services.

SEI boxes like the 4k R Plus are much more popular with CE, so better supported. But E4Q Extra is supported too.

SEI offers much better OS support than Ugoos. The R Plus was released with ATV11, got ATV12, is getting ATV14. Ugoos rarely if ever does major OS updates.

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Since the Homatics is Google certified there is a risk involved of it getting Bootloader locked?

I already have the mecool KM2 plus which is certified and has locked bootloader.

The ugoos is a bit expensive but has emmc.

no, Homatics are not bootloader locked, if they wanted they would have done it long time ago.

As far as I understand, the differences between S905X4-J/K and S922X-J are:

  1. VC-1 (this is only for old 1080p blurays? If need arises, I have S905/W for that)
  2. boot from emmc
  3. ~50€

I dont care about UI speed. I only care about jitter and zero frame drops.

Since VC-1 is unneded, then the only real difference is “boot from emmc” for 50€ or am I mistaken?

So my questions are:

  1. what are the chances of Homatics ever in future being able to boot CE from internal emmc? Where does the problem lie. Is it uboot or is bootloader locked?
  2. For Kinkhank G1, is it “unsupported” only because of 100mbit and non working wifi? 100mbit limitation can be solved with a cheap USB gigabit adapter (USB2.0 25MB/s is enough for movies!) which I already have.
  3. Is Kinkhank G1’s wifi6 ever going to be fixed? If that will be fixed, its then even a cheaper option for P7 FEL, since 5ghz wifi6 flies.

Im looking into AM6B+, but Im having a hard time spending 50€ more just for “boot from emmc” which could be fixed in the future.

  1. about VC-1, easy fix is to run PM4K if you have Plex server and in settings remove VC-1 codec and let Plex transcode it, works fine, using it on my brothers Homatics boxes.

  2. boot from emmc won’t probably come as you have certified Android on them, why it won’t work I don’t know but dual booting from sd card with usb adapter works fine and you can also move the data partition to emmc if you stay on Android 11/12.

  3. I myself using AM6B+ as I bought it first and before the news that Homatics boxes could do DV P7 FEL, but I like like it more overall and the extra performance A73 cores it uses, and most of the users is using it, the price difference is worth it easy, I just bought the Homatics boxes second hand as I got them for around €70, so it depends on what price and if you really need certified Android TV, I just use IPTV and SmartTube on my AM6B+ and it works great.

It is technically possible and I made it work 2 weeks back. Maybe it will come to supported feature one day.

The problem with such features is that if something goes really, really wrong there is no image available to make a restore and fix the device. But in my opinion this is user risk and such user must be ready to brick device.

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Im confused. What does “certified Android” have to do with ability to flash to internal emmc? I dont need Android. Only CE.

What could go wrong? Just repeat the steps for reflashing and all is good? Why do you think booting from internal is already not implemented?

So I then I understood correctly, that the only real difference is booting from emmc?

What about Kinkhank G1 and why is it unsupported?

OSMC has a fix for VC1, it may come to CE.

It means that it is Google Widevine L1 certified, and such boxes should have bootloader locked and encrypted. Why some have it not is just a convenience.

Because it’s made by a laying&stealing company which uses free code developed also by some CE devs in their products without approval or compensation.
Besides stealing software, they change components with cheap ones as time goes on. Their first G1 rev.a hardware version was quite OK, but lately rev “c” and “d” have inferior and problematic Ethernet and WiFi solutions.

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This perfectly explains it. Was not even thinking in this way, thanks!

Is it so problematic thats it is actually broken, never to be fixed and not advisable to buy? USB gigabit adapter should fix everything right?

Im actually now leaning towards 2x G1’s instead of 1x AM6B+ (since Homatics is locked) and still have ~40€ left over.

The G1 is never going to be as well supported as the Homatics box. It’s one of those boxes that a manufacturer tosses out and largely abandons. You pay a bit more now or even more later.

I personally would say that the best box is the AM6B+ and then buy a cheaper Android box for streaming.

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“buy cheap, buy twice”

Where in the settings can you remove the VC-1 codec.

  1. about VC-1, easy fix is to run PM4K if you have Plex server and in settings remove VC-1 codec and let Plex transcode it, works fine, using it on my brothers Homatics boxes.

check PM4K settings and under videos if I remember correctly.

Thank you, that was where the setting was located. I will test later.
FYI, Using a media player with the S928X SoC, the VC-1 plays With hardware decoding.