Big surprise coming soon

Fully agree. I am optmistic on this. Sooner or later someone (single or group) will find the way. We must learn from the past where many things looked “impossible” and then they were realized. Thanks CE team and to you Vasco for still believe in the man capacity in these dark moments for humanity.

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April Fools’ Day over! :joy:

Just kidding everyone – it was all an April Fool’s joke!

Sorry for the chaos (or you’re welcome :wink:), but it was too good to resist.

Thanks for the laughs and reactions!

Happy 1st of April!

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Damn! I FEL for it :smile:

Absolutely not I’m sorry! In my country, there’s a fair use legal right to copy and “crack” protections (technically called “workaround measures”) if you own the original product. This applies to CDs, DVDs, BRs, whatever you rightfully own.

But under no circumstance can you share/broadcast the result outside your home or close family circle (ie: people living under the same roof as you)

This product isn’t based in nor is it solely distributed in your country so it cannot be bound solely by laws in your country.

In the US there is an interesting possible workaround for the issue.

Under the DMCA, breaking encryption is illegal. However, under fair use, you are allowed to own an archival copy. Unfortunately, the DMCA does not have a fair use exemption. So, if you crack the encryption in order to make a backup copy, you break the law.

All of the above being said, I would posit that a colorable fair use argument can be made where if you own the original disk and then you download a remux, it would be legal. There would be no DMCA violation and fair use would prevail. Note that you would not be able to sell the original and retain the electronic copy or vice-versa. That would be copyright infringement.

You forget, in the US they have to prove you have done such a thing.

In order to obtain proof they would have to invade your privacy, unless you talk about it or redistribute it and they can prove it was you.

The workaround being do it for your own personal use and never let it leave your network and never tell anyone about it.

While limiting yourself to personal use you are not causing damage to the copyright holder so even if charged it is unlikely the case would hold up.

Also since you are not causing damage the copyright holder is unlikely to even spend attorney fees to stop you since they got paid in the first place.

You might read up on fair use because it covers things such as comment or education which I think you would have to argue ferociously in court to have it covered.

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Pointless to do this. But it does make clear what CE thinks of some of it’s supporters and users. Noted!

Thanks. I think that information is good for everyone to have at least some familiarity with if one lives in the US. For this discussion, making an archival copy has long been held to be fair use. And if you own the original, the copyright holder can’t really make a case for damages. But yes, in general there are those two considerations. What is strictly legal versus what a rights holder will deem worthy of the expense to litigate.

I’ve been an IP (EE undergrad) attorney for going on 32 years now and lead the IP function of a global multinational. The laws between jurisdictions can be interesting to say the least. The rights holders in this country are very strong. Not so much in many others.

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I made an observation on the wording in the copyright notice on one of my BluRay discs.

“For private home use”

If I make a backup privately in my home isn’t that the same thing? Since you’re in legal I thought you would enjoy the semantics of it. :wink:

Typically, that warning is to prevent the work from being performed publicly (unless you license the rights to do so).

I guess depending on which side of the aisle you sit, interpretation of language will be wildly divergent. But really, in a certain sense all of this is academic for folks that are making archival copies. Again, what may be strictly illegal by statute doesn’t mean the FBI is going to break down your door if you decide to back up your copy of Howard the Duck using MakeMKV.

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Why is this Open again? :thinking:

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Again a joke from Portisch?Ehhhh Ehhhhh

:thinking:

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:face_with_monocle:

It was working on april fools :rofl:

Is this real or joking again? I guess it’s real and, if so, you will be the GranMaestro Portisch.

:grinning_face: :grinning_face: :beating_heart:

Edit: Checked the video system info and found that the version is 22.0-Piers_devel 20260429113133

compiled 26-04-29 11:31:45 and Portisch has reopened this thread few minutes after the compilation.

So??? Gues???

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Stop teasing us already :rofl: