Nightly builds (NEW)

So I would see to talk about a scaling that would make the best use of the chipset with Amlogic.

But in the meantime, isn’t it possible to debug the display without scaling ? This problem does not appear on other OS (Linux, Android). So I guess it comes exclusively from CE. I think it’s an image sync issue.

By the way, a remark :
This is uniquely noticeable on the OSD when playing 1080@30hz and 4k@60 and 4k@59.940 video. But it is also present outside reading when the interface is set to 60hz, 30hz and 59.940hz. (present when entering a file and coming out of it, for example). On the other hand, if the interface is at 50hz, or at 24hz, there is no artifact. Ditto in 4k@24, or 4k@50 video playback, no artifacts. So, i assume that the problem is related to the refresh (30hz, 59hz and 60hz).

The question is who will invest hours/days for debugging, research and trial and error for Hobby?

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I think that the last time we looked into this was like 2 or 3 years ago.
Eventually, I think that we reached the conclusion that this was a hardware limitation. Possibly memory bandwidth limit, or something like that.
Normally, at 4K resolution, the GUI is downscaled to 1080P. With the scaling disabled, the GUI is rendered at 4K, which doesn’t work well on some devices. On some it’s “usable”, where the artifacts are rare. On others it’s unusable at all because it messes up everything on screen.

Edit :

Thank you for these clarifications TheCoolest.

A hardware limit ? But then why do we not encounter these artifacts on other OSes in 4k@60hz ? Even Kodi on Android does not have this problem. And I don’t believe in a memory limit, because these artifacts are not present in 4k@50hz, 30hz, 24hz (Artifacts disappear with a frequency other than 60hz.).

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I don’t have a technical explanation. It’s what I remember we were able figure out when we spent time on looking into it. It’s also possible that the techniques used by the different OSes to render the GUI are different, which may result in the difference in behavior you see.

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24 posts were split to a new topic: Render 120Hz GUI

100% Agree !!

Hi all, by the way.

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Has the custom disp_cap feature been removed now? I don’t see any mention of it in the log, and with CE-19 I used to sometimes have issues with EDID data because powering on devices at different times.

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Are there any plans to phase out Matrix nightlies and start with O nightlies? :innocent:

There aren’t any new CE-19 nightly builds already since some time. CE-21 Omega is ready from our side but there are some missing components from LE to be able to make a useful build.

I have discovered an oddity in NG 20 nightly (CoreELEC-Amlogic-ng.arm-20.1-Nexus_nightly_20230302) which is still present in the latest build.

SD Content that is around 360p has stuttering that looks as if frames are being missed during playback. Audio is fine though.

480p and above seems perfectly fine.

Playback in the the build immediately prior to CoreELEC-Amlogic-ng.arm-20.1-Nexus_nightly_20230302 is fine.

Small sample attached.

Marjorie Taylor Greene Says Something We NEVER Thought She’d Say.mkv (3.0 MB)

The video is taken directly from YouTube, where, if you were to use the Play to Kodi addon, the same stuttering also occurs when streaming using this addon.

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There is rework of the hw/frame buffer ongoing. But it might be finished with tomorrow nightly 20230304, maybe. Please test than again.

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20230304 fixes the problem, along with another that I forgot to mention, where setting 4:3 videos to be played 16:9 resulted in a distorted image, requiring a manual change from normal to 16:9 when playing a video.

Thanks.

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running the latest nightly of NE 21 and the DialogPlayerProcessInfo.xml uses labels in the 316xx range that skins also use

Why i dont have popup on first boot of latest changelog when new update is installed. Im running latest ng 21 (20230504)

DD transcoding working ok for others on latest 21 -ne nightly?

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Somthing is wrong with NG omega builds on my s905x3 android box (f3 air), from 20230704 and 20230705 i cant on longer play new media files that newer ben play before pressing play do nothing, only files that have resume play position work and finish files, going back to 20230702 fix problem

Update:
Using context menu and selecting ‘play’ option do nothing, but when you first select ‘play from here’ and then stop video after starts playing, and then you use ‘play’ option from context menu or button on remote, video starts to play normaly, but only that file all new never open files cant be play using play option on menu or button on remote (ir or kore or yatse)

Latest nighty 20231706 ng working perfectly on 2 boxes. One is an H96x2 , 2nd is X96x3. :+1:

Is new 20.3 nightly on Amlogic-ne incorporating the back port for DV support?