CoreELEC 21.2-Omega Amlogic-ng Discussion

I use it mainly to distribute my provider’s channels throughout the house

Yes, of course, I’m not saying that Kodi is illegal.
I’m specifically talking about what people do with it…
I was just reacting to the fact that people say here “we don’t want to support the FEL layer because it can only come from illegal files.”
(In summary, I know that CoreElec would include it if they could, if it weren’t for a story about the Kernel and Dolby licensing…))

If we had to remove everything that can be done illegally with Kodi/CoreElec, I don’t think there would be much left.

Since apparently even private copies of one’s own media are illegal…

@Atreyu : okay thanks :wink: I don’t think I could do that in my country (Belgium).

It’s not even about the legality of DV FEL. CE relies on the source and DV module that Amlogic provides. Amlogic changed something in the source and/or DV module, resulting in no DV FEL in +5.4. It’s not a matter of CE knowing what that change was, but not wanting to fix it. Nobody really knows what changed. It’s not like attempts weren’t made to get DV FEL working in kernel +5.4.

On the other hand, the legality of ripping movies may have something to do with why Amlogic removed DV FEL support from their code.

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DV MEL rips are also illegal, but MEL is not removed…

Can DV MEL playback be removed without breaking regular DV playback?

Is this DV/Fel discussion really to do with NG?
Should it not be in its own thread?

Of course FEL
It has everything to do with NG Branch

Has also been discussed in other threads over the last year and a half.

Users need to Accept/Respect the decision Team CoreELEC has made.

The Future is New Order!!!

If you want FEL then use 4.9 NG kernel
Will still work for years to come!!

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Hi everyone,

I see that driver support was recently added for RTL8851BU-based WiFi devices, which is great. Are there any plans to freshen up the dated RTL88x2BU (RTL8822BU?) WiFi driver from 2023? There are quite a few new USB WiFi devices that don’t work with CoreELEC due to the outdated driver.

Maybe ask here?

Same issue here on 2 x s905x3 and 1 x s905x2 boxes.

Frame skipping on x265/HEVC videos, have rolled all boxes back to 21.1.1 and playback is good again.

Thank you for the confirmation (I thought I was going crazy). To be clear this only happens with certain files, not all. I have updated one of the boxes only and will try nightlies to see if there’s any difference.

is 21.2 nightlys causing any problems for ugoos amb6+ users? About to set up I’m unsure whether to go with a 21.2 nightly or 21.1.1 stable having read various bug reports about wifi not working or lagging video on this thread etc as it was only released a month ago, but people have different boxes so different issues.

Why not with 21.2 stable?

It might be dated but I’m going to follow this guide for my device
which seems pretty straight forward.

if stable 21.2 works better for ugoos then I would but I’m not sure.

Your choice, but nightlies are more prone to bugs than stable versions. You can update to newest nightlies when ever you want or need to address any issue you might have with stable version.

ok point taken, I think this was talking about 21.1 at the time of the tutorial post anyway which may have been buggy at that period but probably got fixed in the year since for the old version and new version.

Hello guys,

I am trying to find an answer to my question: why is there support now on the older ng kernel for s905x4 sc2 devices? What would be the benefit of using older kernel on these devices?

I have generic s905x4 device. I tried latest ng version on it after having ne version almost 2 years long. I just backed up the settings from ne version, prepared a fresh installation on microsd and restored those settings on the fresh ng.

I found ng to be a little bit faster/smoother. But I have had a lot more random freezes than on ne. Is this because I used restore from the ne to ng? I saw at first start that some addons downloaded new binary or something like this, because of the architecture of the kernel I think? Had struggle with elementum crashing, but after a few freezes and cut off power and put it back it was okay. Now YouTube doesn’t work because there comes an error from the InputStream adaptive and then freeze. Guess I have to install some addons from scratch again.

On latest ne I had an issue that when I close a HDR video, CoreELEC gui reverts back to SDR, but the colors are messed up because the TV doesn’t switch back to SDR. If I power off TV and then on or remove and reattach HDMI cable it goes back to normal, or if I reboot CoreELEC. I guess CoreELEC fails sending back the SDR flag or something. With ng no more issue.

So once again what would be the benefit of using older ng instead of newer ne on the SC2 S905x4?

There’s no benefit to running CE-NG on an s905x4 that doesn’t have DV support. Those that do have DV support can play DV FEL in CE-NG. That’s really the only reason to go to the older kernel.

CE-NO (kernel 5.15) also supports your SOC, and is where most of the CE development time is being spent.

Thanks for the explaination. How would i know if my box supports it? I have a X96 X4 box and hdr only tv.

I will test ng more and if still getting freezes than I will try fresh install of ne then restore from backup, see how does that go.

I will try the no nightly version. Can i still restore from a backup made on the ne version and apply it to an no version? It will spare me hours of configuration from scratch.

Rule of thumb is: always use fresh installation when changing from any CE version (-ng, -ne and -no) to any other; then install necessary addons, without restoring any backup from different CE version.
Restoring backup from different CE versions can sometimes work OK, but there is no guaranty that it will always work OK.