CoreELEC 21.2-Omega Amlogic-ng Discussion

You really think developers want feedback on why 5 hours of playback breaks on NG Stable/Final
But does not break on NO alpha ?

Now i have small theory, that file manager in NG is buggy: I tried other files and playing from file manager is instabile at CE21NG.

Hello, I have a Homatic 4K R Plus (S905X4),
I have been very much in doubt if I should use Stable CE21-NG 21.2(released jan-25) or Nightly CE21-NG 21.2. I need to use the NG because of FEL support.

People just say to use the nightly, but is the ā€œstableā€ actually more stable than the nightly, or its just a ā€œrandomā€ snapshot. So in that case the nightly might actually prove more ā€œstableā€ if it contains a bugfix for example.

Also I cannot really understand the difference between the ā€œgenericā€ version, vs the non-generic version of the downloads.

For some boxes there are specific versions; if your box does not have a special version for it, then you must use ā€œgenericā€ version which also works on many unlisted boxes.

This is very clear and self-explanatory.
I am very specifically talking about the generic vs non tagged one.
See picture. Is it just the container which is different, ie. *.img.gz vs *tar?

IMG is the complete installation package, and tar is the upgrade package.

Go with the stable generic,Burn image with Balena etcher,following installation instructions, rename to dtb.img.

Test away, can always updte/change to nightly if desired

I always use the img.gz - that way you are sure to get what you want. It will server either purpose - upgrade existing release or install to different release level. As bluesea said, the .tar is an upgrade to an existing release (i.e. if you are already on CE 21 ng you can use the .tar to upgrade the existing release.) However, since the img.gz files are one more level compressed ( I think?) and thus usually smaller in size, I just get the .img.gz.

Can you go back to stable from nightly as well or its a one-way street?
Once in nightly you stay on nightly?

Yes. Do it from CE settings in the update section (inside running CE)
I have done that a few times. I have a few devices using different CE releases. I always use 2 SD cards. One I use for nighties, other one has the stable releases on it in case I get a crash.
I like to dabble :wink:

First test stable. Confirm
Ethernet
Wifi
Bluetooth
Remote config
Front Display/if using
Test media playback directly / and network share if you use that.

Just test the thing.!!

If all is good.
Then no reason to test Nightlys

Isn’t it the case that there is a problem with newer CE versions and S905X4 device ucode? (e.g.on vontar x4)
So, which one should we use with ucode < 3.49?

I’m using the latest (20250707) nightly NG build on an AM6B+, and there’s an issue playing at least one (possibly more) files that several users have observed elsewhere. It’s an issue in Kodi itself though, not CE-specific. It’s been solved in Kodi’s latest v22 nightly builds; will this ever be incorporated into NG? I’m guessing not since NO is in development… but I’m ever hopeful :smiley:

There’s a thread at Kodi detailing the issue. The start and end of it are most informative: https://forum.kodi.tv/showthread.php?tid=382140

In short: A mid-stream change in the HDR metadata causes the videoplayer to reinitialise, causing a brief black interlude in playback. Fixed by ignoring the change.

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When TK will fix it, it will be included for nightly and finally 21.3. Whenever it will be released…

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The last nighty is form 08.09.2025 , When will v21.3 be released?

There was a nightly for this version, yesterday, though.

Not sure where I’m supposed to look for the changes … (that’s not me asking, just me explaining why I’m not listing any much more than …) … but the date on the nightly is in the filename, below:

CoreELEC-Amlogic-ng.arm-21.2-Omega_nightly_20250929.tar

Won’t allow it to run for now … but … thought you’d be interested, @ManSky24 …

This they post changelog here at the bottom

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I hope someone can fix an issue that’s persistent on all CoreELEC releases for a while now, but I’m posting about it here since I use .NG the most.

Playing DVD Discs with menus (.ISO files or VIDEO_TS) has an error where when the movie I’m watching comes near the end, about final minute or so, the timer on OSD just freezes, pausing the video does nothing, if I try to press a button to stop the video, the video freezes. On top of that, audio also stops playing soon after this happens. Of course, this is true not just for the main movie on the DVD, but also any other video extras (trailers, etc.)

This error hasn’t been present since forever because I know that on older versions I had no such issues.

And as mentioned, the same error exists on .NE and .NO releases.

Why did Dune/Homatics 4kp and Rocktek G2 not receive VC1 support in the NG? Was it not worth it?
And for the NO, if that had also been done in the NG, we would have had a perfect player for both apps and CE playback.