Homatics Box R 4K Plus

So when are you going to release dv for generic devices? :stuck_out_tongue_winking_eye:

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It’s already available since a few weeks in ce-21 nightly…

Wow that’s a pretty crap attitude, especially since they supported it before on devices with kernel 4.9 :frowning:

I assume it has something to do with licensing, where only “official” blu-ray players are allowed to use the full enhancement layer. Because with the exception of that “hacked” Kodi version by monsoons that only works on two devices, the only other devices I have found to work with FEL support are blu-ray players like the Oppo 203 and clones and some Sony players.

Anyway, Dune HD is sort of “honest” about their Profile 7 FEL support on their website (although their wording is slightly misleading), because they state this:

Dune HD media center supports direct playback of Dolby Vision profile 7 FEL double-track and double-layer files. This is the most advanced Dolby Vision format. Dune HD media center plays video in this format using both tracks/layers. The important Dolby Vision information from the second track/layer (Dolby Vision RPU metadata) is transmitted to TV together with video data from the first track/layer.

So I guess they’re just doing the same as CoreELEC :slight_smile:

Dune supports dual track? CE is to support a single track.

My previous device (Ugoos AM6B) has promised the full DV playback in Android but it’s still very problematic. Because I have always preferred CE I still use it (without DV because AML decided to split kernel versions and leave older devices behind).

A week ago I decided to give AML another chance and bought this nice Homatics box because of DV support in CE, yay! Big respect and thanks to the CE team for all the work involved.

Now it seems that this nice new device also won’t get full DV support because of AML kernel module.
Why, AML? WHY are you doing this? I don’t get the way this company treats it’s customers…

No, Dune does also not support dual track, only “old” Amlogic systems with 4.9 kernel.
Dune APK player use same method we use to convert profile 7 to profile 8.1 with RPU.

Where is profile 7 used? On BluRay only?
To be honest, there is no need for FEL support as BluRay do have a copy protection so there should no MKV or similar exist at all. And there does no Amlogic device with internal BluRay disk player exist.

I guess, this fact will be the reason there is no FEL support at all. As from technical/licensing view there is no need.

that is your opinion and a loaded statement! and lets leave it at that.

converting to 8.1 with RPU for FEL in not good enough for some titles. if this box is not going to support dolby vision entirely, then it’s just a under powered over priced box!

not saying this is CoreELEC’s fault at all.

the GT-King is way faster, can install to EMMC, and is cheaper

very true

List of UHD bluray Fel.docx (18.1 KB)

I hava also the Ugoos Am6B plus with @monsoons kodi build and I clearly see the difference between Homatics and Ugoos in many movies from the attached list. Also I see the same difference between homatics and the sony x8002. Tv is a Panasonic oled JZ1500. So The Fel content is important for reproducing the true content of the movies authored with Fel especially if the Fel bitrate is from 5mb’s up.

I tought DV is only available for homatics and dune? Am I wrong?

You know of another box that support dolby vision?

So it’s quite a conundrum. To get proper DV HDR for a growing list of titles wherein FEL increases brightness (and would therefore play subpar with profile 8.1) users have to install Monsoon’s Kodi to either the Ugoos AM6B+ or the MINIX NEO U22-XJ MAX. But going this route loses the ability to play HDR10Plus & HLG HDR. Or we stay with the SEI Robotics boxes (Homatics Box R 4K Plus or RockTek RT-G2 or Nokia 8010) and have subpar DV HDR on some titles but more options for dynamic HDR (titles encoded in HDR10Plus & HLG HDR).

Still waiting for the White Whale that runs CoreELEC and plays DV HDR profile 7 (BL+FEL+RPU), profile 8.1, profile 5; and HDR10Plus and HLG HDR and HDR10 and SDR all perfectly…

If the Monsoon-built Kodi worked perfectly on either the Ugoos AM6B+ or the MINIX NEO U22-XJ MAX, I’d go that route. But as @ragico has reported, it has some stability problems.

The best route for fel is a sony bluray player with .ts container. NO streaming player can play them with stability.

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Well, with Ugoos+@monsoons I get Dovi p5,p7 and p8.1, HDR10, HDR10+ and HDR HLG.
Regarding stability problem, mainly depends if the display frame rate matches the movie framerate. So I put in Ugoos settings the display resolution to 4k24 and problems zero. But also it is advisable to not use fastff/rew while watching the movie.
This works also on Google chromecast with google tv.

Or an Oppo 203 clone such as the M920x series (without a disc drive). But this is getting somewhat off-topic :slight_smile:

+1,I also like to play Fel with am6.

I didn’t realize AMB6+ w/Monsoon’s Kodi build could play HDR10+ & HLG HDR!

Are you saying that there is no auto-refresh/frame-rate changing with Monsoon & AMB6+ ?

Yes there is auto-refresframe rate changing but the display must be set at 4k24

So what happens when I play a 1080p59.94 file?

Ah, I see you set match refresh rate to “always” https://forum.kodi.tv/showthread.php?tid=372504&pid=3146202#pid3146202 Are you still using the official firmware 0.5.4? Have you tried slimBOX? Was there an update to Monsoon’s Kodi where he fixed fast-forward/reverse?

Sorry for so many questions…

I’m afraid I’m getting off-topic here and I apologize.